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posted 1-8-2021 @ 01:18 PM www


It's very misleading advertising and promotion for their comp.
To make it worse, they usually do not publish winners unless where required, which is why we now see this condition in these types of comps, "In the event of any ACT winners or SA winners of a prize valued at $250 or more, their names will be announced online on a weekly basis at vaalia.com.au starting on 09/08/21"
By not publishing ALL winners, we never know how few winners there are from the possible 1,680 prizes.
posted 1-8-2021 @ 01:56 PM www


Quote: Originally posted by blingda  
I'm in terrier mode. I'll probably get blacklisted from promotors but I've just sent a message via the comp listing and also on their facebook page letting them know how I feel.


Good for you !




MonkeyandMe
posted 2-8-2021 @ 09:36 PM www


Thanks for all comments above. Not even purchasing for a token entry in this one. Imagine the extra sales if only they would run a more honest comp? We would all be purchasing and entering frequently, rather than boycotting them, and remembering why. Brand loyalty and reputation destroying, not building. Just don't understand their logic.
At least with Nescafe, we know that even if we don't win on the day, our entry counts for a fair and equal chance in draws at end of comp.
posted 5-8-2021 @ 07:57 AM www


Ok, this got me mad so I've sent a private message on their facebook page, emailed and also posted this on the 'Rumour File' for 3AW just now. Hopefully they pick it up and put it on their station.

MESSAGE TO 3AW RUMOUR FILE SENT:
VAALIA Yogurt have heavily promoted a yoghurt 'competition' that CLEARLY makes it LOOK as though they are giving away a Garmin Watch every hour. When you read the fine print you only win if you enter within an allocated 3 seconds within the hour. (so 3 chosen seconds out of the 3,600 seconds in an hour). What an absolute SCAM. There is no second chance draw so basically they will most likely be giving away very few if any Garmins. So many people will be tricked. It's just wrong.


This was the email I sent and the responses:

EMAIL SENT TO VAALIA:
I can see you have a new promotion coming up soon which makes it look like there is a Garmin to be won every hour. I was super excited and ready to stock up on Vaalia BIG TIME. ... but then I looked further and realised this is very false advertising making it look as though there is a prize EVERY HOUR where in reality it's unlikely you will be providing many prizes at all (if any).

A 3 second window, seriously? With no second chance draw for that hour if no-one enters in that minuscule timeframe?

I can see this will get a lot of people off-side. I for one boycotting Vaalia for the near future which is a shame for me as I actually love your yoghurt ... but now don't like your ethics!


THEIR REPLY:
Hi Linda​,

Thank you for your email.

We use
winning moments mechanics to ensure that there are more opportunities for everyone to win; this allows us to bring a larger reward to more people for engaging with our brand.

We would
like to highlight that this promotion is conducted in line with the terms and conditions which can be viewed here -
https://www.vaaliapromo.com.au/terms
Vaalia Promotion
The Promoter collects personal information ("PI") in order to conduct the promotion and may, for this purpose, disclose such PI to third parties, including but not limited to agents, contractors, service providers, prize suppliers and, as required, to Australian regulatory authorities.
www.vaaliapromo.com.au

The
terms and conditions are prevalently displayed on all marketing communications including at the point of entry, furthermore anyone who enters the promotion must opt into the terms and conditions when submitting their entry.

We
appreciate your feedback and this will be passed on to the appropriate team.

Kind regards,
Holly
Vaalia on Pack Promo Support


MY REPLY TO HER EMAIL:

Hi Holly,

Thankyou for your reply and I don't envy your position as I know there are already a lot of upset customers out there so I'm sure my complaint is not your first nor will it be your last throughout this 'promotion'.

I (as have many others I have spoken to), think this is a blatant scam. I don't think you have made it clear that out of 3,600 seconds each hour only THREE of those seconds MAY be a winner (if they are the first entering in that 3 seconds). I'm confident (as I'm sure you are) that you will be awarding very few, if any, prizes along the way with no second chance draw.

I do believe there will be more people boycotting Vaalia once the word gets around whereas if you ran a legitimate competition everyone would be out there buying up big time.

I know a number of people are looking at taking this further with the relevant bodies and media so I will watching with interest to see the outcome and see if this sort of misleading advertising can continue for future promotions.


Yours sincerely,
posted 5-8-2021 @ 08:31 AM www


After reading the posts here I will also not be buying so there goes another customer
posted 5-8-2021 @ 04:27 PM www


Quote: Originally posted by heckatee  
After reading the posts here I will also not be buying so there goes another customer


Me also and I've been buying Vaalia for some time now since a comp where lots of prizes were won. I found it sorted my digestive problems so had stuck it.

Just checked their FB page and no mention of this comp, was going to warn the unknowing public of their real chances of winning.




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posted 5-8-2021 @ 04:42 PM www


I got the same, blingda

Nice to know they think they can just fob people off with the same copy and paste bull hockey
posted 5-8-2021 @ 06:38 PM www


Gah thats crap.. I took a five year break so this winning moments rubbish is definitely new to me. Won't bother with this one
posted 5-8-2021 @ 07:45 PM www


Quote: Originally posted by Sands  
I got the same, blingda

Nice to know they think they can just fob people off with the same copy and paste bull hockey


It's absolute crap isn't it. They're obviously expecting some backlash if they put it up on their facebook page as haven't mentioned the comp there. I'm going to post as soon as they do but have no doubt they'll instantly delete and block any comments against them. Grrrrrrr.
posted 5-8-2021 @ 08:25 PM www


When people complain, make sure you also mention the fact that they won't be publishing winners except those of SA & ACT (as required by law) further trying to conceal this scam competition where hardly anyone will win a prize.

What a croc this line in their response is:
"We use winning moments mechanics to ensure that there are more opportunities for everyone to win; this allows us to bring a larger reward to more people for engaging with our brand."

If they really want to bring a larger reward to more people, then they would ACTUALLY allow people to win the prizes!!!

EDIT: I'll take the first line back. Out of curiosity, I had a look at their Winners link and 4 people popped up:
J. Carter, VIC
R. King, NSW
A. Roberts, VIC
C. Skeen, NSW

So this comp started on the 2nd, that makes 3 days not including today, and out of a possible 72 prizes, only 4 have been won. I wonder if they listed these winners because there were no SA or ACT winners to list and they didn't want to look too bad. Although 4 out of 72 is pretty bad.
posted 10-8-2021 @ 02:24 PM www


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posted 13-8-2021 @ 10:12 AM www


Aaaaahhhhh... winning moment!!! Wish I knew HOW to contact SOMEONE to get these "competitions" banned. Does anyone have any idea?

I once contacted the ACCC (I think) about the Smiths comp which did this (early days of winning moments) and they said they can only do promoter by promoter investigation. And in saying that, they were disgusted that it would be advertised as a win an hour, but only really a win for 3 seconds.

What we need is for it to be ruled out as a way to award prizes in competitions, but I don't know how or who to contact to say this can no longer be a method of awarding prizes.
posted 13-8-2021 @ 04:33 PM www


Quote: Originally posted by dodger21  
Quote: Originally posted by heckatee  
I don't fully understand these winning moments if anyone could explain that would be great.


In one hour there are 60 minutes.
In one minute there are 60 seconds.
Therefore, there are 3,600 seconds per hour.

For only 3 seconds in those 3,600 you will have a chance to win if you enter and press submit at some stage during those 3 seconds.

Percentage wise, 3 divided by 3,600 x 100 means =
You have 0.08% chance to win if you enter


So you have a higher chance of getting a blood clot from the Astra Zeneca vaccine, than of winning a prize in this competition!:o:o:o
posted 13-8-2021 @ 07:39 PM www


Perfectly explained Dodger21. Now if someone could just alert some gaming department to officially exclude such ridiculous and selfish ways of running competitions. Lots of prizes "to win" but almost zero prizes "won".

posted 13-8-2021 @ 10:07 PM www


Quote: Originally posted by itspossible  
Perfectly explained Dodger21. Now if someone could just alert some gaming department to officially exclude such ridiculous and selfish ways of running competitions. Lots of prizes "to win" but almost zero prizes "won".

Like the Helgas comp now... no winners, and we ALL buy bread!!!


Well, that's not strictly true about the Helgas comp -- I won, and there are at least two other Lottoers who posted on here that they won $100, so that's at least three winners so far that we know of!:P:yes:
posted 14-8-2021 @ 12:53 AM www


Quote: Originally posted by Glucose  
Quote: Originally posted by itspossible  
Perfectly explained Dodger21. Now if someone could just alert some gaming department to officially exclude such ridiculous and selfish ways of running competitions. Lots of prizes "to win" but almost zero prizes "won".

Like the Helgas comp now... no winners, and we ALL buy bread!!!


Well, that's not strictly true about the Helgas comp -- I won, and there are at least two other Lottoers who posted on here that they won $100, so that's at least three winners so far that we know of!:P:yes:



Whoops, sorry, I've edited my comment above. Congratulations on your Helga's wins.
posted 15-8-2021 @ 07:03 AM www


No Win at 6.00am on the dot
posted 15-8-2021 @ 07:52 PM www
Updated Winners List as 15 August 2021

WINNERS



J. Carter, VIC

R. King, NSW

A. Roberts, VIC

C. Skeen, NSW

Y. Teong, VIC

T. Armstrong, VIC

S. Baines, NSW

G. Singh, VIC

M. Rychter, NSW

T. Harold, VIC


I find this promo a tough nut to crack - however the above winners have proved me wrong

Good luck to all lottoers
posted 18-8-2021 @ 08:06 PM www


Ive wrote something on their sponsored post about this comp on Facebook, a lot of people not aware of the time window
posted 18-8-2021 @ 09:42 PM www


No, you're not wrong dathcart. That's just 10 winners over a period of 15 days (not including today). Less than one per day from a possible 24 per day.
So just 10 wins from a possible 360.
They would be better off to run an honest comp and draw one winner per day, instead of lying to their customers.
Quote: Originally posted by dathcart  
WINNERS

J. Carter, VIC
R. King, NSW
A. Roberts, VIC
C. Skeen, NSW
Y. Teong, VIC
T. Armstrong, VIC
S. Baines, NSW
G. Singh, VIC
M. Rychter, NSW
T. Harold, VIC

I find this promo a tough nut to crack - however the above winners have proved me wrong

Good luck to all lottoers
posted 20-8-2021 @ 11:43 PM www


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posted 21-8-2021 @ 04:43 AM www


Assuming they are real winners

We have seen promoters put up random names before when they have gotten too many complaints about dodger comps
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posted 28-8-2021 @ 09:59 AM www


loser twice so far
posted 29-8-2021 @ 01:34 PM www
Updated Winners List

WINNERS




J. Carter, VIC

R. King, NSW

A. Roberts, VIC

C. Skeen, NSW

Y. Teong, VIC

T. Armstrong, VIC

S. Baines, NSW

G. Singh, VIC

M. Rychter, NSW

T. Harold, VIC

C. Maguire, NSW

M. Cruz, NSW

M. Applegate,QLD

S. Thackeray, NSW

T. Nguyen, VIC

A. Newnam, NSW

J. Adcock, QLD

M. Alexander, NSW

J. Hylands, WA

C. Hersey, NSW

R. Goffin, ACT

S. Daniel, QLD

G. Koulendianos, NSW

D. Grabham, QLD

Y. Ren Ang, QLD

N. Black, NSW

L. French, ACT

B. Wong, VIC

B. Williams, QLD

J. Wardlaw, VIC

W. Ng, VIC

P. Jordan, VIC

N. Tree, QLD

N. Dissanayake, SA

C. Manners, NSW

M. Kogios, VIC

C. Muoz, QLD

I. Serafim, WA

E. Tawil, QLD
posted 29-8-2021 @ 02:36 PM www


Love to know if any Lottos member is on that list as I still think it's a scam and the names are probably not legit.
I no longer enter this type of comp and boycott their products.
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